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Jan 28, 2016 3:05:34 GMT
Post by rat on Jan 28, 2016 3:05:34 GMT
In Mirage it is mentioned that Minerva uses reproduction of MP90 as a standard-issue SMG. It would be reasonable to base the design of a new weapon on it - or at least have it utilising the same ammo, since Minerva must have significant amount of it already produced.. The cartridge of this weapon, 5.7 x 28, suitable for use in the handguns:  Hunting rifles and sporting carbines:  In terms of standardization is a very good choice. |
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Jan 28, 2016 1:59:03 GMT
Post by mg on Jan 28, 2016 1:59:03 GMT
5.7x28mm is fairly common on a global scale today, so it would have a good chance of surviving the war. It's also better suited to a submachine gun than 9x19mm. For explosives, I was imagining mortars and traps. Traps are easily made from grenades and cannot be returned. However, a mortar captured by raiders would be very valuable and dangerous. A cheap and simple idea instead: "Leach trench catapult" uses elastic to throw hand grenades to enemy trenchs.  "Roman ballista" uses coiled rope to throw arrows or rocks, but also could throw hand grenades.  Grenade thrower team could practice to find maximum range, or to bounce grenades off the ground. If they learn correct flight time, they could throw grenades to explode above the enemy. This would kill enemies in trenches or hiding behind shields. |
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Jan 28, 2016 1:10:35 GMT
Post by dwergar on Jan 28, 2016 1:10:35 GMT
Also, what about explosives - and, in particular, grenades? What kinds of 'em are used, and which models? And where they are used?
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Jan 27, 2016 20:05:43 GMT
Post by Amberlight on Jan 27, 2016 20:05:43 GMT
In Mirage it is mentioned that Minerva uses reproduction of MP90 as a standard-issue SMG. It would be reasonable to base the design of a new weapon on it - or at least have it utilising the same ammo, since Minerva must have significant amount of it already produced.. |
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Jan 27, 2016 19:03:32 GMT
Post by mg on Jan 27, 2016 19:03:32 GMT
If I'm not mistaken, walls and watchtowers did not stop raiders from entering in a prologue of a comic, where Keleres were introduced to us. Due to this I would not dismiss city fighting with somebody better (Or "better") armed and trained (and/or more numerous) than local thugs. And why not pair SMGs with bolt-action carbines loaded with 6.5*51? I would not expect raiders to get hold on a supply of munitions for these. Also, it will ease supply for Minerva. Anyway, carbines would be no match to proper rifles, machineguns and artillery of any sort in a proper laid siege. That is a good point. I assumed the prologue raiders used an explosive. They could have been shot from the wall. However, a tank or artillery cannon would be impossible to stop with a carbine. 6.5x51mm has almost twice the kinetic energy of 7.62x39, and more than twice the range. The only reason I did not want to use the better bullet is because I worried it would be too powerful. I want a carbine that can defend against raiders, but not be useful to raiders if they capture it. There is a real 6.5x39mm "Grendel" produced by Wolf in Russia, made from 7.62x39 casings. It does not have range or power like 6.5x51mm, but it is still much better than 7.62x39mm. To ease supply for Minerva, something similar could be made by cutting a 51mm casing down. This would be more powerful than 6.5 Grendel because the casing holds higher pressure and more powder in the same length. Also, I'm almost finished drawing a select-fire machine pistol / submachine gun. It will use 9x19mm with a 150mm (6 inch) barrel. It will use 3-shot bursts because rate of fire is very fast.  These hunters are called "crazy Russians". You can hunt bears with an SKS, but you can also hunt bears with a spear. Either choice are a good way to be killed by bears. |
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Post by Amberlight on Jan 27, 2016 18:05:35 GMT
Methanol-powered vehicles. I was digging into the Archives for pre-Collapse materials and stumbled on this article describing a method of converting atmospheric carbon dioxide in methanol. What it means for Minerva is that we can produce fuel from electricity produced by solar or wind farms, water and atmospheric gas. The batteries we use in our vehicles have high capacity, but they are surely expensive to produce. Minerva could have been able to afford such expenses in the past, but now we have taken significant losses both in raw resources and vehicles. I don't have access to Oculus reports but would assume that many agricultural vehicles used by the towns were lost during the invasion and more will be lost soon. It may be economically viable to produce vehicles that use methanol-powered engines rather than electric motors with expensive batteries, with one fuel generator servicing dozens of vehicles. I also believe that methanol engine will be cheaper than hydrogen power cell, another option to store power by producing fuel from water. And if you are concerned about ecology, unlike fossil fuels this will not add any CO2 to the atmosphere. All CO2 released was captured not so long ago to make the fuel, so the overall balance remains unchanged. Yan Minich, Glaucus engineering.
Я снова принялся рыться в Архивах, изучая до-Коллапсовые материалы и наткнулся на эту статью, описывающую способ превращения углекислого газа из атмосферы в метанол. Для Минервы это может быть полезным потому, что позволяет производить топливо из электричества, добываемого солнечными батареями и ветряками, воды и газа из атмосферы. Используемые нашими машинами батареи имеют высокую емкость, но в производстве они весьма дороги. Минерва могла себе позволить их массовое производство раньше, но сейчас при вторжении мы потеряли как источники ресурсов, так и машины. У меня нет доступа к отчетам Окулюса, но я небезосновательно предположу, что утеряны и многие сельскохозяйственные машины, используемые поселениями. Не исключено, что машины с метаноловым двигателем обойдутся дешевле, чем электрические с дорогими батареями, и один генератор топлива может обслуживать десятки машин. Также я думаю, что метаноловый двигатель обойдется дешевле водородного топливного элемента, другого способа создавать топливо из электричества и воды. И если кто-то беспокоится об экологии - не стоит. В отличие от ископаемого топлива весь выделяющийся в атмосферу углекислый газ был оттуда извлечен, чтобы это топливо произвести. В общем плане баланс газов в атмосфере не изменяется. Ян Минич, инженерный отдел Главка. |
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Jan 27, 2016 11:17:56 GMT
Post by rat on Jan 27, 2016 11:17:56 GMT
Carbine as a status weapon, to get food, for self-defense in the region is widely used. The hunting cartridge 5.45x39 version called 5,6x39. Cartridge too powerful for foxes and goats but good for wolves, red deer and saiga. Carbine chambered 7,62x39, well suited even for urban combat, this SKS. Below: Photo hunter with SKS and they obtained bears.
Карабин как статусное оружие, для добычи пищи и самообороны в регионе применяется. Охотничья версия патрона 5,45х39 называется 5,6х39. Патрон излишне мощен для лис и коз, но хорош для волков, сайгаков и маралов. Карабин под патрон 7,62х39, хорошо подходящий даже для городского боя, это СКС. Ниже: фотография охотника с СКС и добытые им медведи. |
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Post by rat on Jan 27, 2016 10:54:00 GMT
Speaking of floating wind farms, why not actually use them in larger quantities?
Говоря о летающих ветряках, что бы не использовать их в больших объёмах? На территории, контролируемой Минервой, есть такой уникальный природный объект, как "Джунгарские ворота": ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%B6%D1%83%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B0Благодаря своей узкой и длинной форме Джунгарские ворота образуют природную аэродинамическую трубу. В проходе воздух сжимается и в соответствии с законом Бернулли ускоряется, из-за чего образуются ураганные ветры (до 70 м/с). Сухой юго-восточный ветер из Китая, свирепствующий в холодное время года, называется «ибэ». При перемене погоды из казахских степей через Джунгарский проход дует северо-западный ветер «сайкан». Время года, когда в Джунгарских воротах нет ураганного ветра - науке не известно. 
On a Minervan territory there is an unique natural formation called Dzungarian Gate. Due to it's narrow and long shape the Gate form natural wind tunnel. As the air enters the narrow passage it is compressed and, following Bernoulli's law accelerates, creating lasting hurricane winds (up to 70m/s). Dry south-east wind from China that rages during the cold season is called Ibe. As the weather changes the north-west wind called Saikan flows from Kazahian steppes. The only time of the year when there is no wind at the Gates... wait, there is no such a thing. |
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Post by rat on Jan 27, 2016 10:36:40 GMT
Steerable bullets or Pike missiles launched from underbarrel grenade launcher would require laser pointer for guidance. A laser pointer that can track a person at 1000 meters would require a tripod of it's own.
Для наводящихся пуль или тех же ракет Pike, запускаемых из подствольного гранатомета, нужен лазерный целеуказатель. Лазерный целеуказатель, позволяющий на 1000 метров точно навести боеприпас для прямого удара в человека - сам нуждается в триподе для наведения.
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Post by Amberlight on Jan 27, 2016 6:07:53 GMT
Speaking of floating wind farms, why not actually use them in larger quantities?
Говоря о летающих ветряках, что бы не использовать их в больших объёмах?  They have all the benefits of a balloon but also produce electricity. They are more expensive, sure, but still should be rather cheap for Minerva. And will be a good backup power source in case if something happens to the solar farms - a long-lasting cloudy weather for example.
Они выйдут дороже, чем просо воздушные шары для оборудования, но не намного, учитывая ресурсы Минервы. И будут неплохим запасным вариантом на случай, если что-то случится с солнечными батареями. Длительная облачная погода, напрмер. I will also steal your picture for my first post in this thread. |
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Jan 27, 2016 5:08:25 GMT
Post by dwergar on Jan 27, 2016 5:08:25 GMT
If I'm not mistaken, walls and watchtowers did not stop raiders from entering in a prologue of a comic, where Keleres were introduced to us. Due to this I would not dismiss city fighting with somebody better (Or "better") armed and trained (and/or more numerous) than local thugs.
And why not pair SMGs with bolt-action carbines loaded with 6.5*51? I would not expect raiders to get hold on a supply of munitions for these. Also, it will ease supply for Minerva.
Anyway, carbines would be no match to proper rifles, machineguns and artillery of any sort in a proper laid siege.
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Post by mg on Jan 27, 2016 3:32:44 GMT
A guided bullet that steers itself. Very useful for important targets, but also expensive compared to normal bullets.
Управляемая пуля. Крайне полезна для важных целей, но также заметно дороже стандартных патронов.
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Jan 27, 2016 3:30:07 GMT
Post by mg on Jan 27, 2016 3:30:07 GMT
All the cities I've seen so far have walls and watchtowers. A raider would need to get inside the wall for a submachine gun to be useful. Even then, the raider's gun is either made from spare parts or has been used for decades. Also, I don't expect the town militia to fight like soldiers. I expect them be on a roof or behind a barricade, where they can calmly fire single shots too much danger. Most importantly, I didn't want the gun to be useful if it was captured by a raider. If a raider has this carbine and tries to siege a town, the people inside can wait for weeks.
For comparison, a full-powered rifle would be better at defending the wall but it would also be more useful if a raider stole one. A submachine gun is cheap and simple, but not accurate and very hard to control without experience.
Building this carbine is also cheaper than building an assault rifle, and it can use common 7.62 bullets. This also makes it useful for hunting deer, boar, and wolf. However, you are correct: a submachine gun is still necessary for fighting criminals and gangs who live inside the town walls. This carbine is too long and slow for fighting inside buildings. Police need a fast weapon, and they practice often enough to control recoil with automatic guns, so I will make a submachine gun to be a pair with the carbine. Good idea.
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Jan 27, 2016 1:17:00 GMT
Post by dwergar on Jan 27, 2016 1:17:00 GMT
Where you await militia's conflicts to emerge, and why do you think that this carbine is most appropriate for these conditions?
For I thought that these conflicts would most likely emerge in or around cities - which would require a good mix of SMGs and fully powered rifles (STEN and Mauser 98, for example) if not proper assault rifles. I don't find the idea to fight in a city with a bolt-action carbines only to be any good - not when enemies could deploy at least something relatively lightweight and capable of automatic fire (SMGs and assault rifles).
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Post by echo12 on Jan 26, 2016 23:41:23 GMT
For a precise shot in the mountains you need to know the distance, elevation, atmospheric pressure, temperature, humidity and wind on the flight path of a bullet. And for the target to stay still while the marksman takes the shot. If the marksman has the time to prepare he can land a precise shot. So the fire support should pin the enemy down and draw their attention for the marksman have an opening for a precise shot.
Для точного выстрела в горах нужно знать дальность, угол места, атмосферное давление, температуру и влажность, ветер на трассе полета пули. Ну и чтобы цель никуда не убегала, пока по ней пристреливаются. У хороших стрелков, когда есть время подготовить выстрел, он будет точным. Главное, чтобы пулеметчик прижал врага огнем и отвлек на себя, давая время на подготовку точного выстрела бойцу с винтовкой. Alternatively, you could use DARPA's EXACTO rounds, or something similar. Sniping for cheaters!
Или же можно использовать пули EXACTO, разрабатываемые DARPA, или что-нибудь подобное. Абсолютно бесчестная стрельба из укрытия! |
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