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Posted by Admin
Sept 29, 2014 21:34:26 GMT
Here is the approximate location for the 2nd faction, who for now I'm calling Mongols.



Again, I'm not saying these people have to be Genghis Khan (they certainly can), just that there is a strong anti-Minerva faction in this area. You get to help plan it.
Posted by jasonc
Sept 30, 2014 5:06:42 GMT
Is there is a strong sense of mustache-fu here?
Posted by Admin
Sept 30, 2014 12:58:57 GMT
There certainly could be :)

But more important than that, what sort of group are they? Are they nomadic raiders? Cannibals? Anti-technology?
Posted by Amberlight
Sept 30, 2014 15:28:47 GMT
Mongolia isn't a big military or economical power. It would make sense if their territory haven't seen much action during WW3. So they actually may be the most well-supplied faction out there. They don't have high-tech stuff like Minerva does, but are able to produce some low-end pre-war stuff.
With that, the main portion of the population won't have a need to go raiding. However there may be some nomadic people that reserve to violence from time to time, raiding both Mongolian settlements and Minerva territory.
Posted by JeremyR
Sept 30, 2014 15:44:10 GMT
The Mongols wrecked a lot of face by being an unconventional civilization, maybe they could still have a penchant for blasting in from all sides on horseback (probably with assault rifles in lieu of bows)after a long period of preparation and scouting. I did a bit of research on them before commenting and one phrase that stuck out was "march divided, fight united." Mobility was a big part of a Mongolian offensive so if horses don't work, they've at least got to have something fast.
Posted by Admin
Sept 30, 2014 16:16:03 GMT
Yes, by being relatively uninvolved in WW3, they are currently faring better than the WW3 superpowers are. It's also possible that the nomadic raiders have united under a "Khan", are having a resurgence of cultural pride and identity, and have their mobile army on mares with rifles to invade.
Oct 1, 2014 7:49:18 GMT
The Mongols wrecked a lot of face by being an unconventional civilization, maybe they could still have a penchant for blasting in from all sides on horseback (probably with assault rifles in lieu of bows)after a long period of preparation and scouting. I did a bit of research on them before commenting and one phrase that stuck out was "march divided, fight united." Mobility was a big part of a Mongolian offensive so if horses don't work, they've at least got to have something fast.
Yeah, like jeeps or other 4x4. Or with buggies ^^
Posted by Sphinx
Oct 1, 2014 18:27:31 GMT
Now I have come to pass a flight of fancy, so please do not bob for a departure from reality and some illogicality. Mongols (Horde Spirits) gluttony man whom everyone calls Khan. Mongol army is a mobile part of the motorcycle and light, for 5-6 persons APCs. The fastest of them, Canes, act as bait. Their main purpose is to lure troops Minerva from localities to lure them into a trap, where the grenade destroyed the very frontier. When the town deprived oboronnosposobnosti it fly into the Jackals (motorized rifle company) and destroy the local population, capturing prisoners and plundering everything that is not nailed down. Also, as an option, there is a strong possibility, although fairly old aircraft, which makes regular attacks. I have set all quite delusional and unrelated, but, in my opinion, not a bad idea. Though it must be finalized.
Posted by Admin
Oct 1, 2014 18:32:56 GMT
Sphinx, can you include your original Russian so Amberlight can translate it? He does better that Google :)
Posted by Sphinx
Oct 1, 2014 18:35:10 GMT
Сейчас у меня свершился полет фантазии, так что прошу не стукать за отход от реальности и некоторую нелогичность. Монголы ( Орда Духов) объеденны человеком, которого все зовут Хан. Армия Монголов представляет собой мобильные части на мотоциклах и легких, на 5-6 человек бтров. Самые быстрые из них, Гончие, действуют как наживка. Их основной целью является выманить отряды Миневры из населенных пунктов, заманить их в ловушку, где из гранатометов уничтожаются те самые пограничники. Когда населенный пункт лишен оборонноспособности в него влетают Шакалы (мотострелковые роты) и уничтожают местное население, захватывая пленных и грабя все, что не прибито. Так же, как вариант, есть возможность мощной, хотя и довольно старой авиации, которая совершает регулярные налеты. Изложил я все довольно бредово и несвязанно, но, на мой взгляд, идея неплохая. Хоть и ее необходимо доработать.

Не разу не слышал об Amberlight, и не совсем понял, что вы от меня хотели. Надеюсь, я все сделал правильно)
Posted by Sphinx
Oct 1, 2014 18:39:27 GMT
Main Gott... Revised Russian original:

Сейчас у меня свершился полет фантазии, так что прошу не стукать за отход от реальности и некоторую нелогичность. Монголы ( Орда Духов) объединены человеком, которого все зовут Хан. Армия Монголов представляет собой мобильные части на мотоциклах и легких, на 5-6 человек бронетранспортеров. Самые быстрые из них, Гончие, действуют как наживка. Их основной целью является выманить отряды Миневры из населенных пунктов, заманить их в ловушку, где из гранатометов уничтожаются те самые пограничники. Когда населенный пункт лишен обороноспособности, в него влетают Шакалы (мотострелковые роты) и уничтожают местное население, захватывая пленных и грабя все, что не прибито. Так же, как вариант, есть возможность мощной, хотя и довольно старой авиации, которая совершает регулярные налеты. Изложил я все довольно бредово и несвязанно, но, на мой взгляд, идея неплохая. Хоть и ее необходимо доработать.
Posted by Admin
Oct 1, 2014 18:41:01 GMT
Sorry, Amberlight is the name of the translator who runs our acomics.ru/~DemonArchives site, where I assumed you found out about us :)
Posted by Sphinx
Oct 1, 2014 18:47:13 GMT
Oh, it's time to sleep) You know, if I have tomorrow, maybe today, if you do not go to sleep, there will be time, I'll try raspiat more detail and clearly. But generally suggest taking as a basis the Golden Horde, the Great Khans (Good old New Vegas ...) and the White Scars of Warhammer.

***

Оу, пора спать) Знаете, если у меня завтра, а может и сегодня, если не засну, будет время, то я постараюсь распиать более подробно и внятно. Но вообще предлагаю брать за основу Золотую Орду, Великих Ханов (Старый, добрый Нью-Вегас...) и Белых Шрамов из Вархаммера.

P.S. Apologies for the rough translation of Google, I hope my English will pull this thread)
З.Ы. Извиняюсь за корявый перевод гугла, надеюсь, что мой английский подтянет этот тред)
Posted by Admin
Oct 2, 2014 18:46:13 GMT
Some really cool ideas I got from /u/OutSourcingJesus on this discussion I started on /r/postapocalyptic.

For a highly efficient and mobile army, you could have them use wind / sail power. This would allow them to cover and defend really large plains with few resources expended.
Assuming a bit of an advancement in 'Smart Wheel' technology (a lot of which already exists), this could include grass plains and slightly rocky steppes as well.
This, in addition to motorcycle forces and horses, you could keep large groups of people moving very resourcefully for sudden attacks and skirmishes. Then, when heavy forces move in to retaliate, entire settlements could move and relocate before they could be crushed.
This would waste the resources of the bigger forces - possibly leaving them stranded if the mobile groups were able to cut off supply lines.

I was thinking something along the lines of lightly armored kiteboarding. They could easily use thrown or detonated explosives.
www.besportier.com/archives/do-it-yourself-sports-wheelbarrow-wheel-landyacht.jpg
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kite_landboarding
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kite_buggy
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_sailing
Posted by rat
Oct 2, 2014 19:05:26 GMT
Весь запад этой области это Россия и Казахстан. Народы: русские, казахи, тувинцы, алтайцы.
Технический уровень у этих областей достаточно высок: немного область не дотянулась до завода, на котором собирают российские МБР. :)

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