Post by rat on Jan 26, 2016 3:39:54 GMT
Jan 25, 2016 21:30:15 GMT mg said:
The US had the old M14 rifle that was retired decades ago, so they had many in storage. Older rifles like the M14, FN FAL, and HK G3 have the effective range of a stationary machine gun, and they use common 7.62mm NATO. It would be easy for Minerva to make new versions because they are wealthy and they do not have a large military. They can afford excellent weapons and training. I advise rifles that use 6,5x51mm because it is often used by professional shooters during 1,000m competitions. The shape of this bullet is almost identical to the 7.62 NATO, but it has less recoil and flatter trajectory. It also has narrower 6.5mm diameter, so it penetrates armor better than 7.62mm
(left image is an American M14 in Afghanistan. Right image is size comparison. Middle bullet ins 6.5, far right side bullet is 7.62)
You are correct: training and discipline are more important than a good gun. Tenzin's squad was seen firing at the robot, but none of them destroyed it. There are two possibilities 1- they did not hit the target, or 2- they hit the target but it was protected by armor. If they used a better gun, they would have hit the target more often and damaged it more severely. More soldiers would have survived if the robot was wounded early in the battle.
(6.5mm = 260 Rem, 7.62 = 308 Win) (vertical = penetration of armor) (horizontal = range) (size of circle = recoil)
It is true that the soldiers used bad strategy, but I suggest that we should also blame weak weapons. They would not have won the battle, but they would have increased their chances of survival from "very low" to "low".
I agree that small details would not change the general outcome, but you misunderstand my goal. There was no way to win the battle with the robot, but I believe improved weapons could have made a small difference. I prefer any improvement, even an improvement so small that it would not be noticed by a large army in the real world. Minerva has an army so small that a small improvement is valuable.
It was later replaced by M39 rifle.
Which is now being replaced by the M110 rifle,which has effective range up to 1000 meters.
Which is 300 meters less than the range of PKM on a tripod.
Это винтовка United States Marine Corps Designated Marksman Rifle.
Затем замененая на винтовку М39.
Которая сегодня меняется на винтовку М110, чья прицельная дальность доведена до 1000 метров.
Что на 300 метров меньше, чем прицельная дальность ПКМ на станке.
Enemies that destroyed Tenzin's squad knew the exact parameters of their weapons and equipment, their training regimen and tactics. The deathbot and it's tactics were developed with those facts in mind, precisely to counter them. If Keleres had different weapons and training the enemy would develop a different way to destroy them.
Противнику команды Тензина по сюжету были подробно известны характеристики их оснащения и вооружения, программы подготовки солдат и используемая ими тактика. Робот и его тактика были разработаны на основе этих данных. Будь у команды Тензина другое вооружение и подготовка - для их уничтожения был бы разработано другое средство, тактика и план.
The same thing happened to mines. When armoured vehicles were outfitted with mine-resistant platings Taliban started to use "Afghanian surprises" and Iraqi fighters started to use mines that fired an armor-piercing projectile from the side. Weapon and training of our soldiers determines how much manpower and resources the enemy would need to destroy them. But if the enemy is well-prepared and properly calculated the amount of required force, designed a good plan and our intelligence was unable to predict or discover it the people will die despite the hardware they have.
Это как с минами. Начали широко использовать миноустойчивые бронеавтомобили - против них стали широко применять "Афганские сюрпризы", а в Ираке - мины, поражающие транспортные средства в борт ударным ядром. Вооружение, подготовка солдат на тактическом уровне означает наряд сил и расход средств на их уничтожение для противника. Но если противник подготовился, правильно расчитав свои силы и составив правильный план, а наша разведка этот план не вскрыла - наши солдаты погибнут.
Therefore, until Minerva can ensure it's information security any rearmament program will be a doubtable endeavour. It is possible that Minerva will expend more resources on the rearmament than the enemy will on countering new Minervan hardware. Which means that in the end it will only weaken Minerva.
Поэтому до создания эффективной системы информационной безопасности в самой "Минерве" эффективность любых программ перевооружения будет крайне сомнительна. Вполне возможно, что расходы "Минервы" на перевооружение своих сил будут больше, чем расходы противника на модернизацию своих под новое оснащение "Минервы". А это означает, что программа перевооружения "Минервы" ее ослабит, благодаря информационному преимуществу противника.
Don't misunderstand me, I'm not criticizing your weapon designs and the rearmament of Minerva may take place in the story.
I can totally understand you, designing the ships as a hobby. Unfortunately that is not very applicable here.
Прошу понять меня правильно. Я не в коем случае не критикую ваши проекты оружия, и программы перевооружения "Минервы" действительно могут идти во время событий комикса.
Я хорошо вас понимаю, поскольку сам для своего удовольствия рисую корабли. Но к миру комикса мое творчество мало применимо, к сожалению.
